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Barbie Liss: Healing through restorative justice and reclaiming her wise woman archetype

This week on the Finding Fertile Ground podcast, I interviewed Barbie Liss from Toronto, Canada. Barbie is an anti anti-aging coach who guides women as they heal their wounds and shed shame around aging.

Barbie found her own fertile ground through a traumatic incident. Her daughter was raped at age 21. Barbie had to work through her own secondary trauma while supporting her daughter. They both entered into a restorative justice process with her daughter’s attacker.

According to, “Restorative justice views crime as more than breaking the law – it also causes harm to people, relationships, and the community…restorative justice is a theory of justice that emphasizes repairing the harm caused by criminal behavior.”

Restorative justice is rooted in traditions from the First Nations people of Canada and the United States and the Maori of New Zealand.

I’d never heard about restorative justice before, so I was fascinated by Barbie’s story and how it helped everyone heal.

Barbie with her daughter
Barbie with her daughter

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Marie Gettel-Gilmartin, founder and principal of Fertile Ground Communications LLC, is a writer and marketing communications consultant who loves to take the pain and stress out of writing for her clients. She specializes in making the complex clear, using dynamic, accessible language to explain and communicate important issues. She positions her clients as experts in their fields and helps them communicate about pressing issues. Writing communications that boost employee engagement and thought leadership, she also coaches leaders and executives on how to strengthen communications and leadership. She loves to connect people and resources or solve seemingly impossible problems.

As a podcaster for justice, I stand with my sisters from the Women of Color Podcasters Community. We are podcasters united to condemn the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and many others at the hands of police.

Fertile Ground Communications LLC is a certified women-owned business enterprise, disadvantaged business enterprise, and emerging small business.


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